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One of the first books that I read at the start of my graduate school experience 20 months ago was by a renowned thought leader, best-selling author, and organizational change expert named Margaret Wheatley.

A few weeks ago, I had the privileged opportunity to interview Ms. Wheatley — who allowed and requested to call her by her preferred name, Meg (As if we were friends! Squee!) — on my podcast, The New Story Is.

If you’ve been subscribed here for a while or if you’re brand new, you may notice that I’ve been talking more frequently about my podcast.

(I know, I know: I really don’t want to be another one of “those guys” telling you about his podcast!)

And yet, this is the direction of things for me right now.

I’m a full-time graduate student transitioning into a new career field and away from solopreneurship and writing. I’m writing less and podcasting more and, because I love you, I’d love for you to be along with me on this still-young and emerging venture.

It would really, really mean the world to me if you subscribed and listened (on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts).

I even created a curated playlist that I call ‘The New Story Is’ Mixtape on Spotify to give you an ordered way to listen to episodes if you’re new to the show.

Please let me know what you think of the work so far. I would love your feedback, criticism, suggestions, and requests — it is essential, especially at this stage, one year into the show.

And, we’ve been landing some pretty substantial interviews with really fascinating, compelling people who tell meaningful stories that help us make sense of what’s going on in this social, political, and cultural moment.

Enter Margaret Wheatley.

The conversation that unfolded between Meg and me was surprising, daunting, and a bit anxiety-inducing if you ask me. We talked about big topics — none bigger than the idea of civilization collapse.

(Ouch. How’s that with your bowl of Wheaties on a Tuesday morning?!)

But, seriously, the truth is that I was more prepared for it than I may have let on when I wrote you last.

I knew some of what Meg would share with us.

And you may not have been (because who, honestly, is ready to just start thinking about the downfall of everything?).

That’s why, just this past week, I wanted to take a pause from our regularly scheduled interviews and intervene with a personal episode in which I speak directly with you about our interview with Ms. Wheatley and introduce a key philosophical concept coined by one of the other thought leaders Meg cited in our interview, Joanna Macy.

It’s called The Three Stories of Our Time and was created by the ecologist, scholar, and philosopher, to help us understand that there are 3 specific ways to see, perceive, and understand the state of our world today.

Just three.

Three ways to understand the world.

Is it really that simple?

Maybe… but I’ll let you listen first and answer for yourself.

Click here to listen now on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

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Story on!